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Agenda item

Questions

(1)               To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources if he is aware of the regulations regarding Allowances and Expenses for Councillors and if so does he recognise the words of an anonymous Administration Councillor who said in the Press and Journal on 2nd July 2010 “he had been given an envelope of cash for a trip abroad and there were no instructions about how to hand any change back” regardless of his awareness of the regulations can he confirm or otherwise if giving an envelope to a Councillor full of cash meets the requirements of any Act or Regulation laid down by statute and will he refer the matter to the Audit and Risk Committee for scrutiny for them to investigate this and other matters relating to Councillors receiving cash in envelopes?

 

(2)               To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources what instructions if any has been given by him, his predecessor or by Council officers in relation to ensuring that cash given to Councillors to spend on trips abroad or within the UK given in an envelope or otherwise but unused is returned to the Council?

 

(3)               To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources to provide Council with a detailed breakdown of all monies given to Councillors for trips abroad or within the UK and the amount returned by Councillors from these trips either within or without the envelope given to them at the start of the trip from May 2007 to present.

 

(4)               To ask the Chief Executive if she can confirm or otherwise if this Council fully conforms to the regulations laid down by Scottish Ministers in relation to the reimbursement of expenditure incurred on approved duties by Councillors?

 

(5)               To ask the Chief Executive to confirm or otherwise if Councillor Fletcher’s claim published in the Press and Journal’s letter page on Wednesday 24th June 2010 and the Evening Express letter page on the same day which states and I quote “I will finally admit that I, too, have waived a significant amount of salary, over £33,000, and not submitted one claim form for councillor expenses, since 2007” is either incredulous or incredible given the fact that the STATEMENT OF ALLOWANCES & EXPENSES FOR ABERDEEN CITY COUNCIL PAID TO AND ON BEHALF OF ELECTED MEMBERS FOR THE YEAR 1st April 2009 to 31st March 2010 confirms that Councillor Fletcher has claimed a significant amount of expenses. Will the Chief Executive confirm the amount of claim forms submitted by Councillor Fletcher since 2007 and also the amounts claimed?

 

Minutes:

The Council had before it five questions, of which due notice had been given in terms of Standing Order 20(2), which had been placed on the agenda as Councillor Young had indicated that he was unhappy with the responses.

 

Councillor Young

 

QUESTIONS -

To the Convener of the Finance and Resources Committee

 

(1)               “To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources if he is aware of the regulations regarding Allowances and Expenses for Councillors and if so does he recognise the words of an anonymous Administration Councillor who said in the Press and Journal on 2nd July 2010 “he had been given an envelope of cash for a trip abroad and there were no instructions about how to hand any change back” regardless of his awareness of the regulations can he confirm or otherwise if giving an envelope to a Councillor full of cash meets the requirements of any Act or Regulation laid down by statute and will he refer the matter to the Audit and Risk Committee for scrutiny for them to investigate this and other matters relating to Councillors receiving cash in envelopes?”

(2)               “To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources what instructions if any has been given by him, his predecessor or by Council officers in relation to ensuring that cash given to Councillors to spend on trips abroad or within the UK given in an envelope or otherwise but unused is returned to the Council?”

(3)               “To ask the Convener for Finance and Resources to provide Council with a detailed breakdown of all monies given to Councillors for trips abroad or within the UK and the amount returned by Councillors from these trips either within or without the envelope given to them at the start of the trip from May 2007 to present.”

 

ANSWERS (by Councillor Kevin Stewart) -

 

(1)               I am aware of the Allowances and Expenses regulations but can relate to the quote in the Press and Journal as no information about returning unspent money was given to me on the first of three overseas trips I have made on behalf of the Council in my eleven years as a Councillor. I asked for that to be rectified on my return from Ireland. I received the relevant advice the second time I went away.

 

It does not require me to refer the matter to Audit and Risk as the Convener of Audit and Risk can ask for reports on matters of concern and I would be quite happy for the Audit and Risk Committee to look at all matters regarding overseas trips since the inception of this Council in 1996.

 

Councillor Young seems to be alleging other suspect activities in his line of questioning. If Councillor Young has any knowledge of any wrongdoing then I would urge him to contact the Police and the Monitoring Officer.

(2)               I refer Councillor Young to the answer I gave to Question 1. I cannot answer for any other Councillors who have held the Finance Convenership in the past.

(3)               I refer Councillor Young to the following information:-

 


Councillor

Date

Destination

Meal Rate

24 Hour Rate

Money Given

Money Returned

Clark Ronald

19/09/2007

Canada

680 Canadian Dollars

 

680 Canadian Dollars

300 Canadian Dollars

 

06/02/2008

Canada

835 Canadian Dollars

 

835 Canadian Dollars

None

Dean Katharine

19/06/2007

Sandefjord

2400 Norwegian Kroner

 

2400 Norwegian Kroner

£29.37

 

13/09/2007

Brussels

 

360 Euros

360 Euros

None

 

15/10/2007

Florence

465 Euros

 

465 Euros

None

 

14/11/2007

Lille

155 Euros

 

155 Euros

None

 

16/12/2007

Brussels

195 Euros

 

195 Euros

None

 

01/02/2008

Brussels

130 Euros

 

130 Euros

None

 

03/04/2008

Gothenburg

1680 Swedish Kroner

 

1680 Swedish Kroner

None

Reynolds John

19/06/2007

Sandefjord

2400 Norwegian Kroner

 

2400 Norwegian Kroner

None

Stewart Kevin

04/10/2007

Ireland

255 Euros

 

255 Euros

88.92 Euros

 

11/01/2008

Stavanger

1800 Norwegian Kroner

 

1800 Norwegian Kroner

366 Norwegian Kroner

Dean Katharine

02/05/2008

Houston

624 US Dollars

 

624 US Dollars

None

 

30/09/2008

Biarritz

390 Euros

 

390 Euros

None

 

25/08/2008

Stavanger

4200 Norwegian Kroner

 

4200 Norwegian Kroner

4200 Norwegian Kroner

 

22/10/2008

Gothenburg

2550 Swedish Kroner

 

2550 Swedish Kroner

None

 

26/03/2009

Krishansand

1500 Norwegian Kroner

 

1500 Norwegian Kroner

None

Stephen Peter

02/05/2008

Houston

624 US Dollars

 

624 US Dollars

None

 

25/08/2008

Stavanger

4200 Norwegian Kroner

 

4200 Norwegian Kroner

416 Norwegian Kroner

 

09/09/2008

Clermont Ferrand

321 Euros

 

321 Euros

180 Euros

 

05/10/2008

Kazakhstan

748 US Dollars

 

748 US Dollars

100 US Dollars

Stewart Jennifer

05/09/2008

Stavanger

950 Norwegian Kroner

 

950 Norwegian Kroner

None

 

 

 

Councillor

Date

Destination

Meal Rate

24 Hour Rate

Money Given

Money Returned

Clark Ronald

29/09/2009

Canada

725 Canadian Dollars

 

725 Canadian Dollars

None

Corall John

08/10/2009

Amsterdam

150 Euros

 

150 Euros

125 Euros

Dean Katharine

30/04/2009

Houston

702 US Dollars

 

702 US Dollars

None

 

14/06/2009

Stavanger

1950 Norwegian Kroner

 

1950 Norwegian Kroner

None

 

25/06/2009

Amsterdam

130 Euros

 

130 Euros

None

 

30/09/2009

Gothenburg

3420 Swedish Kroner

 

3420 Swedish Kroner

None

 

11/11/2009

Bremen

190 Euros

 

190 Euros

None

 

30/11/2009

Kiel

125 Euros

 

125 Euros

None

Malone Aileen

01/10/2009

Stavanger

1350 Norwegian Kroner

 

1350 Norwegian Kroner

None

May Andrew

20/08/2009

Gothenburg

2553 Swedish Kroner

 

2553 Swedish Kroner

1120 Swedish Kroner

Stephen Peter

01/05/2009

Houston

624 US Dollars

 

624 US Dollars

91 Dollars

 

05/10/2009

Calgary

1140 Canadian Dollars

 

1140 Canadian Dollars

None

Dean Katharine

26/04/2010

Billund

900 Swedish Kroner

 

900 Swedish Kroner

None

 

16/06/2010

Stavanger

2950 Norwegian Kroner

 

2950 Norwegian Kroner

None

Stephen Peter

30/04/2010

Houston

624 US Dollars

 

624 US Dollars

None

Stewart John

01/05/2010

Houston

624 US Dollars

 

624 US Dollars

None

 


In accordance with Standing Order 20(4), the Lord Provost ruled that the questions had been answered satisfactorily.

 

The Council resolved:-

to note the details.

 

QUESTIONS -

To the Chief Executive

 

(1)               “To ask the Chief Executive if she can confirm or otherwise if this Council fully conforms to the regulations laid down by Scottish Ministers in relation to the reimbursement of expenditure incurred on approved duties by Councillors?”

(2)               “To ask the Chief Executive to confirm or otherwise if Councillor Fletcher’s claim published in the Press and Journal’s letter page on Wednesday
24th June 2010 and the Evening Express letter page on the same day which states and I quote “I will finally admit that I, too, have waived a significant amount of salary, over £33,000, and not submitted one claim form for councillor expenses, since 2007” is either incredulous or incredible given the fact that the STATEMENT OF ALLOWANCES & EXPENSES FOR ABERDEEN CITY COUNCIL PAID TO AND ON BEHALF OF ELECTED MEMBERS FOR THE YEAR 1st April 2009 to 31st March 2010 confirms that Councillor Fletcher has claimed a significant amount of expenses. Will the Chief Executive confirm the amount of claim forms submitted by Councillor Fletcher since 2007 and also the amounts claimed?”

 

ANSWERS (by the Chief Executive) -

 

(1)               The City Council complies with the guidelines set down by the Scottish Local Authority Remuneration Committee.

(2)               Details relating to Councillors’ Allowances and Expenses are available on the City Council’s website at:

 

http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/CouncilTax/fin/ctx_FinInfo_Home.asp

 

It is not for the Chief Executive to comment on the content of Councillor Fletcher’s letter to the Press and Journal.

 

In accordance with Standing Order 20(4), the Lord Provost ruled that the Question (1) had been answered satisfactorily.

 

The Council resolved:-

(i)                 to note the update from the Chief Executive that no claim forms for expenses had been submitted by Councillor Fletcher for the period in question; and

(ii)               otherwise to note the details.

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